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MoA – Syria – Turkey Fails In Idleb, Is Unwilling To Take The Northeast

MoA - Syria - Turkey Fails In Idleb, Is Unwilling To Take The Northeast

January 05, 2019

Syria – Turkey Fails In Idleb, Is Unwilling To Take The Northeast

The neoconservatives within the Trump administration, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Nationwide Safety Advisor John Bolton and the Syria envoy James Jeffery, are scrambling to save lots of their plans for Syria that President Trump disposed of when he ordered an entire retreat.

These plans have been for a everlasting U.S. occupation of northeast Syria, the discount of Iranian affect inside the authorities held elements of Syria and an eventual disposal of the Syrian authorities beneath President Assad via negotiations. These have been unicorn goals that had no probability to ever be achieved.

Furthermore Trump had by no means signed off on these concepts. Again in April he had introduced that he needed U.S. troops out of Syria. He gave his employees six month to realize that. However as an alternative of following these orders Pompeo and Bolton tried to implement their very own plans:

Late final yr, a few of the president’s hawkish advisers drafted a memo committing america to an extended-time period presence in Syria that included objectives of an everlasting defeat of the Islamic State, a political transition and the expulsion of Iran, officers stated. The president has not signed the memo, which was introduced to him weeks in the past.

In reality, Trump had warned his aides for months that he needed out of Syria briefly order.

Bolton’s Iran plan by no means actually took impact on the Pentagon, the place officers weren’t formally tasked with any new mission along with the operation towards the Islamic State. Army officers likewise seen Iran’s enlargement into Syria as problematic, however they have been skeptical concerning the lack of a transparent authorized justification that may be required for offensive army motion towards Iranian-backed forces.

Trump acknowledged that these plans have been nonsense and ordered to finish them. In that course of he got here up with a likewise unicorn concept – handy northeast Syria to Turkey to struggle the already defeated Islamic State. Turkey doesn’t need northeast Syria. It doesn’t need to danger a bloody struggle towards the Kurds that may be required to maintain such an occupation.


The solely applicable answer is handy management of northeast Syria (yellow) again to the Syrian authorities (purple). Damascus would disarm the Kurds or combine them inside its nationwide military. They might be underneath management and not a menace to Turkey. Everybody might reside with such a simple answer.

Everybody however the neocons.

As we speak Nationwide Safety Advisor Bolton is on his method to Israel to prepare dinner up new plans:

A Trump administration official advised reporters touring with Bolton that Bolton meant to debate the tempo of the drawdown, in addition to American troop ranges within the area. Bolton was anticipated to elucidate that some U.S. troops based mostly in Syria to struggle IS will shift to Iraq with the identical mission and that some American forces might stay at a key army outpost in al-Tanf, in southern Syria, to counter rising Iranian exercise within the area.

Bolton’s additionally was to convey the message that america will probably be “very supportive” of Israeli strikes towards Iranian targets in Syria, …

I guess that neither of these factors was signed off by Trump. The publication of those concepts is one other try by Bolton to push his private insurance policies to the entrance.

Erdogan, requested by Trump to take northeast Syria however unwilling to take action, raised calls for that the U.S. is unlikely to satisfy:

Turkey is asking the U.S. to offer substantial army help, together with airstrikes, transport and logistics, to permit Turkish forces to imagine the primary duty for preventing Islamic State militants in Syria, senior U.S. officers say.

The Turkish requests are so in depth that, if absolutely met, the American army may be deepening its involvement in Syria as an alternative of decreasing it, the officers added.

Bolton will later fly to Ankara and talk about the Turkish plans:

Members will embrace White Home nationwide safety adviser John Bolton; Gen. Joe Dunford, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs; and James Jeffrey, the State Division envoy for Syria.

One U.S. official stated the administration is unlikely to offer all the army help the Turks are in search of, particularly on air help.

With out U.S. air help Erdogan cannot assault northeast Syria. The Turkish air pressure is weak. Lots of its skilled pilots have been fired for alleged help and involvement within the coup towards Erdogan. The airforce is unable to offer the required 24/7 help its troopers would wish. There’s additionally strife inside the Turkish military command. If he would order an assault, Erdogan would solely go for the Kurdish areas alongside the northern border, not for the Islamic State. That once more is one thing the U.S. doesn’t need in any respect:

Many specialists and officers additionally worry the Turks might goal Kurdish fighters who’ve lengthy offered the U.S. with strong help within the marketing campaign towards Islamic State militants and endured appreciable lack of life.

To attempt to mitigate these dangers, Mr. Jeffrey, the State Division envoy, is looking for to forge an association with the Turks that might permit them to enter northern Syria whereas avoiding largely Kurdish areas, say U.S. officers conversant in the plans.

Mr. Jeffrey and his State Division workforce have created a shade-coded map of northeastern Syria in an try to barter an influence-sharing plan that would avert a pricey Turkish-Kurdish struggle within the space.  … One former U.S. official described the map as “Sykes-Picot on acid,” …

The concept is delusional. There are not any borders between Kurds, Arabs and different ethnicities in northwest Syria. The populations is combined. Solely the ethnic percentages range from city to city. Implementing the thought would result in ethic cleaning and an eternal conflict.

The Kurds are not prepared to comply with the U.S. lead.

Mr. Jeffrey has requested Gen. Mazloum Abdi, the Kurdish commander of Syrian fighters, to carry off on making any offers with President Bashar al-Assad’s authorities whereas the Trump administration tries to develop its technique.

“F*ck you,” stated Basic Abdi, because the Kurds proceed to barter:

Syrian Kurdish leaders purpose to safe a Russian-mediated political cope with President Bashar Assad’s authorities no matter U.S. plans to withdraw from their area, a senior Kurdish official informed Reuters.

The Kurdish-led administration that runs a lot of northern Syria introduced a street map for an settlement with Assad throughout current conferences in Russia and is awaiting Moscow’s response, Badran Jia Kurd, who attended, stated.

A deal between the Kurds and the Syrian authorities “is inevitable” says a senior Kurdish army official. The U.S. proved once more to be unreliable and the Kurds have nowhere else to go.

Not one of the new plans and concepts Bolton presents make any sense. They’re unlikely to have Trump’s blessing. Whereas the U.S. retreat from northeast Syria could also be delayed one other month or two, it’ll doubtless proceed.

The final week noticed new developments in Idleb governorate. Idelb is essentially dominated by the al-Qaeda group Hayat Tahrir al Sham (HTS),  the previous Jabhat al-Nusra. There are additionally many different teams underneath Turkish management. However Turkey had just lately transferred lots of these fighters to assault the U.S.-Kurdish held Manbij on the Euphrates. That assault was stopped when the Syrian military took management of the world.

Whereas the Turkish supported teams in Idleb have been weakened, HTS used the event to strengthen its management. On Monday HTS (gray) assault the areas west of Aleppo which have been held by Nour al-Din al-Zenki. The as soon as CIA supported Zenki turned ‘well-known’ when in 2016 a few of its fighters revealed a video by which they beheaded a sick ten yr previous boy for no discernible cause.


Over the past 5 days at the very least 130 individuals have been killed within the Idleb preventing. Zenki was eradicated from the world it held (stripped gray) and its remaining fighters fled to the northern Afrin canton which is underneath Turkish military management. HTS took management of Zenki’s heavy weapons together with 4 tanks.

HTS now controls all areas subsequent to Turkey and the Turkish managed Afrin. It despatched ultimatums to different teams in Idleb and demanded further management over the cities Maarat al-Nu’man and Ariha within the south of the governorate. As not one of the different teams can stand up to HTS it can doubtless quickly management these cities. Taking them provides HTS full management over the M4 and M5 highways. Management of the highways can be utilized to generate cash and as an asset in future negotiations.

The Astana settlement between Russia and Turkey over Idleb stipulated that HTS can be pushed again 15 miles from the federal government held areas. The M4 and M5 highways can be reopened to visitors for presidency visitors. Turkey was imagined to implement and assure these factors. Not considered one of these factors has been achieved. The Turkish troopers stationed in six statement posts round Idleb governorate are hostages to HTS. As Turkey did not ship on its guarantees Syria and Russia have all rights to disregard the settlement, assault HTS and to liberate Idleb.

That Turkey failed in Idleb makes it extra doubtless that it’ll chorus from invading northeast Syria. Its military positions in Syria are already in hassle. Why add new ones to the mess?

Posted by b on January 5, 2019 at 02:20 PM | Permalink

It seems just like the US advisors like Bolton are actually circling round on the lookout for one other method to get into the struggle. Air help for the Turks in an ongoing bloodbath may go well with them. Will the Russian permit it although?

You talked about Sykes-Picot. The entire state of affairs jogs my memory of the late nice Yugoslavia and the Balkan Wars. Divide everyone up by ethnicity or faith (Croats are Catholics, Serbians are Orthodox to not point out the varied Muslims and Albanians lurking about) and set them at one another’s throats.

Time for the Russians to remind the People they stated they have been leaving and if they do not depart now, the door will hit them on the best way out. The clock is ticking.

Posted by: Uncoy | Jan 5, 2019 2:38:46 PM | 1

The state of affairs in Syria is coming alongside properly. Kurds negotiating with Damascus, Turk proxies all out of Idlib and AQ takeover of Idlib. A lot more durable now for the US and UK to face up for the ‘individuals’ of Idlib when the offensive goes forward. Be fascinating to see what the colour coded map of Syria seems to be like presently subsequent yr.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Jan 5, 2019 2:45:41 PM | 2

With apologies to b

I do know individuals get a bit sensitive about mentioning typos, however there’s a sure mordant humour to:

“Implementing the idea would lead to ethic cleansing…”

When as we all know the neo-con thinkophobes underwent ‘ethic cleaning’ a very long time in the past!

Posted by: Ross | Jan 5, 2019 2:53:21 PM | three

It appears like Bolton and Pompeo are making final makes an attempt to show issues round, presumably with Netanyahu’s involvement within the conspiracy. I ponder whether they, and Trump, even understood what an irreversible determination saying the pull-out was. As soon as Trump had advised the Kurds to piss off, they have been sure to go and make a cope with Asad. I stated this on right here weeks in the past instantly after the announcement; it was apparent. Trump telling them to not shouldn’t be going to have any impact. I actually do not assume they understood the political penalties. There you’re, the leaders of probably the most highly effective nation on earth, they usually do not even hassle to seek the advice of advisors (thoughts you, Washington advisors are fairly idiotic too).

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 5, 2019 three:05:34 PM | four

b, this can be a very full article, thanks for that. It’s spectacular how some people are utterly towards the Syrian Authorities to make a cope with the Syrian Kurds or Syrian Arabs/Assyrians/and so forth… from the SDC. This resistance to this idea of peace and unity ought to increase concern of a hidden agenda to maintain Syria off stability for a very long time, who would win with this technique ? None different then the apartheid regime of Israel. Hold that in thoughts when anybody from MoA hear somebody utter unfavorable towards the Syrian Gov coping with the SDC.

Posted by: Canthama | Jan 5, 2019 three:25:19 PM | 5

Trump ,should hearth Pompeo and pornoschache.

Posted by: Carlos Mamawe | Jan 5, 2019 three:55:16 PM | 6

Its being reported by FARS that the US continues to be offering the SDF with arms and ammunition. They declare that a lengthy convoy of just about 200 US military vans, carrying weapons, munitions and logistical gear, left the US bases in Iraq on Saturday and arrived in coalition bases in Raqqa, Manbij and Ein Issa in Northeastern Syria. The Kurdish militia reported that the vans with arms and ammunition cargo is to be delivered to the SDF.

True or pretend information, who is aware of? Seeing as Trump is in no hurry to tug out it rings true to me, they should keep provides and relations with the SDF as long as they’ve troops there

Posted by: Pft | Jan 5, 2019 four:03:07 PM | 7

I’m far more skeptical.

Trump claims Mattis’ resignation as a ‘win’ however permits Bolton to proceed his neocon machinations?

Quite a few MSM articles seem about Trump’s standing as much as the Generals: Mattis, Kelly, Dunford, and so forth. But Bolton feels free to conspire towards the President’s agenda?

The narrative that Trump is preventing for his marketing campaign guarantees however permits Bolton and Pompeo to scheme towards him is nonsensical.

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My view (which I’ve repeated quite a few occasions at MoA) is that Trump is a fake populist. He’s the Republican Obama – pretending to be a populist peacemaker whereas working for the institution. The “populist hero” is a gimmick that reinforces individuals’s perception in USA democracy and the righteousness of USA actions. The Trump/Deep-State battle is a propaganda psy-op.

The Israeli Christmas assault was probably an tried false flag (making an attempt to get SAA to shoot down a civilian airliner like they did weeks earlier than to a Russian army aircraft). It was probably coordinated with USA as a result of Trump’s “pull out” announcement and Mattis’ resignation occurred solely days earlier than.

Trump leads the political wing of the US Deep State. They know that they do not have public help for stepped up army operations within the Center East. However they’ve an agenda (anti-Iran, professional-Israel) that requires that they re-decide to ME. They want a false flag.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 5, 2019 four:14:07 PM | eight

For the US to withdraw like it will show to the area and the world that the US has been defeated and is only a paper tiger. Subsequent, Iraq will probably be wanting the US to get out. Attacking Iran will develop into a fantasy. And this might simply unfold and unfold.

This might nicely be the beginning of an unimaginable diminishment of US affect within the area (after which the remainder of the world). Negotiations with Syria and Russia might mitigate at the very least the look of what’s occurring, however no effort is made on this regard.

For these causes it simply feels over-optimistic (to me) that the US will simply pull-out like this.

Posted by: ADKC | Jan 5, 2019 four:37:34 PM | 9

Trump is definitely a ‘fake populist’ all proper wing populists are. That’s what fascism is, empty guarantees to the individuals whereas selling the pursuits of the 1% and violently dismantling the democratic buildings that is perhaps used to regulate the state.
Trump is all about attacking democracy, making voting robust, selling the Courts over the legislatures, dismantling laws and silencing critics.
All of us knew that.
However the notion that it’s a part of a posh and tightly scripted conspiracy during which he performs his public half and the deep state play theirs, pretending to be at odds with one another, is weird.
There’s collusion alright: all concerned need to rip off the taxpayers and cram the individuals again into their field. However there’s a real wrestle happening inside the ruling class over how greatest to run the rip-off in a altering world- whether or not to assault Russia and/or China, whether or not to accept low cost good points in Latin America and Africa, for instance, and wait till issues swing in Uncle Sam’s method once more, whether or not to push the Europeans into full Chilly Conflict brinkmanship mode, whether or not to settle down Israel or whip it up right into a frenzy…
The world’s a posh place and Washington’s affect is declining shortly, individuals are panicking. And it’s all actual.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 5, 2019 four:40:54 PM | 10



three. We have to be able to answer each act of opposition by conflict with the neighbors of that nation which dares to oppose us: but when these neighbors also needs to enterprise to face collectively collectively towards us, then we should supply resistance by a common conflict.

four. The principal issue of success within the political is the secrecy of its undertakings: the phrase shouldn’t agree with the deeds of the diplomat.

5. We should compel the governments of the GOYIM to take motion within the path favored by our extensively conceived plan, already approaching the specified consummation, by what we will symbolize as public opinion, secretly promoted by us via the technique of that so-referred to as “Great Power” – THE PRESS, WHICH, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS THAT MAY BE DISREGARDED, IS ALREADY ENTIRELY IN OUR HANDS.

6. In a phrase, to sum up our system of retaining the governments of the goyim in Europe in examine, we will present our power to one among them by terrorist makes an attempt and to all, if we permit the potential for a basic rising towards us, we will reply with the weapons of America or China or Japan. (The Russo-Japanese Conflict of 1904-1905 – Ed.).

Posted by: Albert Pike | Jan 5, 2019 5:11:13 PM | 11

Trump is a businessman, at the start. His view of the presidency is actually being CEO of United States, Inc. His insurance policies are aimed toward eradicating what he sees as dangerous offers for the workers and shareholders of that company. Principally it is about revenue and loss. He sees border safety (constructing the wall) as essential to cease the outflow of cash and lives as the results of unlawful immigrants. He sees companies shifting operations again to the US as crucial to scale back the US’s financial dependence on the remainder of the world. He sees sustaining and strengthening US army may as needed for offering a service to the remainder of the world that they’ll pay a good worth for. The tariffs and commerce offers are additionally concerning the US being paid truthful costs (in his eyes). Thus Trump is actually mercantilist in his outlook.

In fact, a businessman just isn’t the identical factor as an economist, and Trump is not any economist. He appears to focus solely on what Frederic Bastiat referred to as “the seen” and thus to disregard “the unseen” (i.e. the larger image). That is solely consistent with being a businessman. Businessmen sometimes consider their very own slender pursuits. Underneath free enterprise, the interaction amongst their numerous slender pursuits leads to the widespread good being served regardless – nevertheless it virtually goes with out saying that we definitely do not reside underneath free enterprise right now.

Trump is a populist within the sense of wanting financial advantages to be loved extra broadly by the American individuals, as an alternative of primarily benefiting an more and more tiny elite. He does not appear to know that US financial advantages are primarily the results of the US greenback being the world reserve foreign money (which is, in fact, enforced by US army may) – or, at the very least, he does not appear to know that his insurance policies might nicely convey an finish to that state of affairs. This is the reason the aforementioned elite is making an attempt to steer him away from his personal insurance policies and outright opposing him when it might’t.

Not one of the above is a justification of Trump and his insurance policies, simply an remark.

Posted by: Cynica | Jan 5, 2019 5:12:10 PM | 12

The actual wolves in sheep’s clothes have been the ascendance of Clinton, Blair, and the like within the early 1990s- because the populations of the West had grown weary of the Chilly Struggle institution and largely favoured, if not a progressive agenda, then definitely a reallocation of assets away from nationwide safety in the direction of critical environmental points and so on. Such fake progressive figures by no means confronted something like the acute strain focussed on Trump. I definitely would not endorse Trump, however he has confronted the remedy one would anticipate for any unvetted one that approaches precise place (as with Corbyn).

The neo-cons might maintain appointed workplace beneath Trump, however little of their coverage initiatives achieve any traction. A yr in the past, their plan was to maneuver right into a full army confrontation with North Korea. The propaganda path had been nicely laid, and a serious convention with an “allied coalition” had been set for Vancouver to unveil the technique – nevertheless it was quietly cancelled and successfully dropped for unknown causes. Now there’s utter incoherence in Center East technique. The solely efficient overseas coverage for the US proper now’s the hawkish stance on China, which is being lead by financial wonks not neo-cons. And this plan is operating into critical problems relating to the worldwide financial system. I feel the rise of Clinton and Blair heralded a era of fairly mediocre political figures whose legacy would be the abrupt decline of the Anglo-Euro geo-political place, which is being realized proper now and there’s certainly a way of panic.

Posted by: jayc | Jan 5, 2019 5:26:59 PM | 13

Bevin @10

I had the identical view of Jackrabbit’s concept and, to be trustworthy, I discovered the fixed re-assertion of the idea a bit annoying however I’m starting to vary my thoughts.

Some studies are simply too ludicrous to take at face worth, e.g. the stories that Trump visited the troops in Iraq over Christmas to forestall a coup try was simply unimaginable to simply accept as something however a fairytale.

Immediately I listened to a evaluation of attainable Democratic contenders for President they usually have been all doomed to lose to Trump. Even Sanders might solely declare he was the “best candidate to beat Trump” (the one “acceptable” coverage goal?). The relaxation have been vapid or destined to be derided, any true radical was simply not included.

As for scripting complicated situations, Tom Secker has a website/ weblog which offers greater than sufficient proof that this has been occurring for a really very long time.

Trump supporters, even people who submit on MoA, are utterly missing in coverage goals for Trump and have little interest in making any calls for/expectations and even taking lively measures to help Trump insurance policies. How can this go anyplace, aside from one other four years to provide Trump an opportunity, adopted by one other determined vote for another con-(wo)man promising change when you solely belief me?

In brief, the entire Trump drama is turning into exhausting to consider. It appears pretend!

Posted by: ADKC | Jan 5, 2019 5:44:27 PM | 15


That is one of the best. I proceed to be astounded on the high quality of your journalism. The work required to place this excellent evaluation collectively, with its a number of hyperlinks to sources, is one thing I can solely salute, mutely.

Many, many thanks.

Posted by: Grieved | Jan 5, 2019 6:10:12 PM | 16

bevin @10:

However the notion that it’s a part of a posh and tightly scripted conspiracy during which he performs his public half and the deep state play theirs, pretending to be at odds with one another, is weird.
I might’ve agreed with you earlier than Obama. I adopted the criticisms of Obama from true progressives intently. It was clear inside 2 or three years that Obama was betraying his ‘base’.

His lofty rhetoric did not match his actions. His Nobel Peace Prize can solely be seen immediately as a ruse. He talked of peace and equity however labored behind the scenes to additional the institution.

Quick ahead to the 2016 election the place Sanders was a sheepdog and Hillary ran a horrible marketing campaign. It is troublesome to look again and never be at the least considerably suspicious of the 2016 election. A populist nationalist was what the Deep State NEEDED to face the menace from Russia and China to their NWO challenge. And that’s what they received. After recognizing the menace in 2013-14 (when Russia countered the Empire in Syria and Ukraine).

Comparable excuses are made for each Obama and Trump. We’re advised that they have been FORCED to succumb to Deep State scheming and political energy. However a way more logical view is that these “populists” know precisely what they’re doing: they know what their ‘job’ is to serve the institution and act because the chief of the Deep State’s political arm. In return they get monetary achieve, social standing, and life lengthy safety. Candy.

Obama ‘turned the web page’ on the Bush Administration’s warmongering. He promised a extra peaceable USA. However he carried out covert wars and bragged of his drone concentrating on.

Trump ‘turned the web page’ on Obama’s deceitfulness. He promised to place ‘America First’ however inside months attacked Syria with missiles “for the babies”. Proof that his first assault was prompted by a false flag did not deter him from attacking AGAIN – additionally based mostly on a false flag. Trump continues to be serving to the Saudis in Yemen. And he is not doing what’s essential to get peace in Korea.

Obama promised ‘transparency’ (“Sunlight is the best disinfectant”) however ‘no drama’ Obama protected CIA torturers, NSA spies, and bankers. Trump promised to “drain the swamp” however has welcomed oligarchs and neocons into his Administration.

How a lot sly BS do we’ve to see earlier than individuals join the dots? An actual populist will NEVER be elected in USA until there’s a revolution; USA political elites are absolutely dedicated to a neoliberal economics that make society neofeudal, and a neoconservative-pushed overseas coverage that calls for full spectrum dominance that brooks no opposition to its NWO objectives.

Anybody who believes in any other case has drunk the Kool-Assist, an addictive, saccharine concoction, offered with out cost and in abundance.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 5, 2019 6:10:33 PM | 17

@10 bevin – “the notion that it is part of a complex and tightly scripted conspiracy in which he [Trump] plays his public part and the deep state play theirs, pretending to be at odds with each other, is bizarre…it is all real.”

Thanks for placing this into phrases. Ockham’s Razor has labored simply superb to parse the conditions we’ve seen come up within the final two years. I utterly agree together with your state of affairs of the altering world and the shifting energy balances.

It’s a quickly altering world, and the wrestle of those that assume they personal it’s to see every day if they will nonetheless management it. Some days they can not.

Posted by: Grieved | Jan 5, 2019 6:19:18 PM | 18